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John C. Shire, CPA

John is a Director with Redstone Government Consulting, Inc. providing government contract consulting services to our clients primarily related to the DFARS business systems, CAS Disclosure Statements, and DCAA/DCMA compliance preparation, advisory, and defense. Prior to joining Redstone Government Consulting, John served in a number of capacities with DCAA/DCMA for more than 30 years. Upon his retirement, he was based in Texas as an SES-level Corporate Audit Director for DCAA, managing a staff of 300 auditors at one of the largest DOD programs. Professional Experience John began his career in the late 80s working in the Clearwater, FL audit office and over the next three decades he progressed through a number of positions within both DCAA and DCMA with career highlights as DCAA Program Manager at Ft. Belvoir, Chief of Technical Programs Division, Deputy Assistant Director-Policy, Director of the DCMA Cost and Pricing Center, the SES-level Lockheed Martin Corporate Audit Director, and Director of Integrity and Quality Assurance. John’s three decades of experience in performing and leading DCAA auditors and DCMA reviewers provides a wealth of expertise to our clients. John’s role, not only in the performance of audits, but also in the development of audit policy affords him unique insights into the defense of audit findings and the linkage of audit program steps to the underlying regulatory framework. He is an expert in FAR, DFARS, and other agency acquisition regulation, as well as a subject matter expert in the Cost Accounting Standards having reviewed and provided audit feedback on many of the largest and most complex cost accounting practices during his tenure with the DCAA. John’s tenure with DCAA and DCMA came at a critical time during each agency’s history where a number of changes were occurring such as the response to the ICS backlog, development of audit approaches to the DFARS Business Systems and implementation of new audit initiatives as a result of Congressional oversight through the NDAA process. John’s leadership at the DCMA Cost & Pricing center saw oversight of all major DOD pricing actions, leadership of should cost review teams, the Commercial Pricing group and many other areas of strategic value to our clients. His involvement in these and other Agency initiatives is of great value to our clients due to his in depth understanding of DCAA and DCMA’s internal policy directives. Education John holds a Master of Business Administration and a B.A. in Accounting from the University of South Florida. Certifications Certified Information Systems Auditor State of Alabama Certified Public Accountant

A Few Things Every Contractor Needs to Know About Cost Allowability

Recently, we conducted research related to some incurred cost audit findings for a client and came across an Armed Services Board of Contract Appeals (ASBCA) case that highlighted key information every contractor, especially small businesses, should know. The Technology Systems, Inc. ASBCA No. 59577 reads like a soap opera. It starts with some ups and downs. There were audit findings in Fiscal Year (FY) 2001, which the contractor and the Administrative Contracting Officer (ACO) negotiated. For FY 2002 to 2006, the contractor’s indirect rates were accepted as proposed. This was followed by relationship issues during the FY 2007 audit between the Defense Contract Audit Agency (DCAA) auditor and the contractor (No surprise to most of us). Then, a period of separation occurred, from FY 2009 to 2013, when DCAA decided that proposal pricing supporting new contract awards was the priority. During this time, the contractor’s FY 2007 incurred cost audit was shelved, along with significant potential questioned costs. Then, in an act of desperation, the ACO issued a Contracting Officer’s Final Decision (COFD) based on a DCAA memorandum for the FY 2007, which questioned costs to avoid the statute of limitations running out. Ok, enough of the soap opera, let’s go through the things you need to know.

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of Incurred Cost Audit Findings

The Good

Ok, finding some good is going to be a challenge. Let's start with the fact that the Defense Contract Audit Agency (DCAA) receives approximately 3,500 incurred cost proposals annually, but only audits around 500 of them. And even though DCAA is still auditing about 75% of the dollars submitted ($193B), only .3% is questioned ($760M), and only 31% of that is likely to be sustained by contracting officers. This comes from the DCAA Report to Congress for 2024.

See, we did find some good.